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The Real Reason You’re Not Getting Promoted (And What to Do About It)


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How do you actually get promoted from Senior to Staff Product Designer? What skills, mindset, and strategies matter most at the Staff level?

In this episode, I talk with Catt Small, a Staff Product Designer, developer, and game maker who’s worked at companies like Asana, Etsy, SoundCloud, and Nasdaq, about how to move up the design career ladder and build influence as a senior IC.


We cover:

  • What hiring managers look for in Staff Designer interviews
  • The difference between Senior and Staff Designers
  • How to demonstrate staff-level impact without being a manager
  • The reality of career resets, emotional burnout, and how to stay in love with the craft


Mentioned in the show:

  • https://www.cattsmall.com
  • https://maven.com/catt-small/staff-designer


Whether you’re a Senior Product Designer trying to get promoted, or you’re aiming to understand the Staff+ IC career path, this conversation is full of real talk and tactical advice.

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Ran Talks DesignBy Ran Liu