In this conversation, part of our Crafting Hope series and the third in our trilogy of episodes around the climate emergency, Emma Pavey is joined by: 

• Dr Elin Kelsey, a leading spokesperson, scholar and educator in the area of evidence-based hope; 
• Abhay Singh Sachal, Canadian Gen Z climate activist, founder of Break the Divide, and advisor for Faith for Earth Initiative’s Youth Council run by the UN Environment Programme; and 
• Jonathan Nobrega, MA student in Environmental Humanities at the University of Roehampton, who works with the London Wetlands Centre.

Find out more about the guests and download a discussion guide for the episode here.