For a very special episode, we're joined by guest Cameron Kunzelman, former writer of Postscript column for VICE and Co-host Matthew Seiji Burns of Zachtronics, writer behind their recent release Eliza

We deep dive on the Apocalypse in fiction, why it's so prevalent, and what makes it work or in many cases not work.

Topics:

Post-Apocalyptic narratives

The Subtext of Apocalypse

Narrative design and Agency

Long running time and the creation of intimacy

Creating believeable characters and relationships

Knock-on effect, using franchises and built worlds as frameworks for intimacy

Why Indie sequels are rare

Future and flaws of the walking sim identity/genre

Gentrification, Forever Colonialism, Tech startups