
In January 2023 I was delighted to spend two days in the hills above Malibu, California with Cassandra Ogier and three beautiful horses. Those two days were powerful; they taught me about my energetic boundaries, the easily accessible (but often overlooked) quality of presence about my being, and that when it comes to experiencing emotions and other energy in my body, there is nothing to be afraid of.



I am so pleased to have Cassandra on the show this week to share how she weaves the 3 Principles in with her equine guided empowerment work.




Cassandra Ogier is a respected member of the Equine Guided Education & Equine Therapeutic communities. Her experience spans over 15 years as a leader in the development of horse-based personal reflection and educational programs. 



She is a Certified Equine Guided Educator and a seasoned mentor and guide. Her approach to Equine Guided Empowerment® through immersion in the living intelligence of horses and nature, breaks new ground in partnering with horses rooted in the concept of free beings, horses and humans, joining together in partnership to achieve awareness, insight and understanding.








You can find Cassandra Ogier at TheReflectiveHorse.com and on Instagram @TheReflectiveHorse.



You can listen above or on your favorite podcast app or read the notes and links below. Here are the highlights and the full transcript is below. 



Show Notes




* Learning about innate well-being after burnout and a cancer diagnosis



* How horses reflect the flowing, temporary nature of life



* How nature helps us to be in the present moment, and be in our bodies, which helps to connect us with our innate well-being



* Why connecting to our bodies creates space for insight




Resources Mentioned in this Episode




* Moved by Wonder, Living in Awe wild horse retreat with Cassandra and Natalie Benway



* Other events at The Reflective Horse



* Sydney Banks’ books



* Dicken Bettinger’s website



* Natasha Swerdloff’s website



* Rohini Ross’s website




Transcript of Interview with Cassandra Ogier



Alexandra: Hi, Cassandra, welcome to Unbroken.



Cassandra: I’m really happy to be here.



Alexandra: I’m so happy to have you here. I should have said your last name as well. It’s Cassandra Ogier. 



Why don’t you start by just telling us a bit about your background. And then how you found the principles.



Cassandra: I’m an equine guided educator,

The Reflective Presence of Horses with Cassandra Ogier

Unbroken explores the Inside-Out nature of life and how this understanding can lead to letting go of unwanted habits, including overeating.

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Mental Health

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We usually think of stress as coming from the circumstances that surround us: busy jobs, busy lives, difficult bosses or clients. But what if stress has another origin? What if it comes from the thinking we have in any given situation?




Clare Downham is the dedicated mentor you need on your unique journey to unlock your innate potential and cultivate a thriving business aligned with your true purpose. As a certified ILM Success Mentor, she specialises in guiding emerging and established female entrepreneurs to embrace their innate mindfulness and harness it as a powerful tool for success. 



With a deep understanding of the inside-out nature of our human experience, Clare expertly navigates the complexities of the entrepreneurial journey, helping women to silence the inner critic, dissolve self-doubt and cultivate a strong sense of intuition and self-trust.




You can find Clare Downham at ClareDownham.com and on Insight Timer at claredownham.



You can listen above, on your favorite podcast app, or watch on YouTube. Notes, links, resources and a full transcript are below.



Show Notes




* On what happens when we ignore warning signs from our bodies



* The false messages business owners receive about having to be ‘on’ and ‘up’ all the time



* How motivation ebbs and flows naturally and there’s nothing wrong when we’re at a low ebb



* On the cyclical nature of levels of personal energy



* How some of our best ideas come during down or quiet times



* How we believe we need to be busy all the time and that resting is ‘lazy’



* How we so often try to be in a different feeling state than the one we’re naturally in



* On overwhelm and its one cause



* How being in the present moment starves stress of the oxygen it needs




Resources Mentioned in this Episode 




* Insight Timer




Transcript of Interview with Clare Downham



Alexandra: Clare Downham, welcome to Unbroken.



Clare: Hello. Lovely to be here.



Alexandra: Oh, my pleasure. It’s lovely to see you. 



Why don’t you tell us a little bit about your background and how you got interested in the Three Principles.



Clare: I was a primary school head teacher. So our primary school in the UK is aged three to 11. I was in primary education for 20 years. And the last five or so I was a head teacher to two different schools. And I became very stressed, although I didn’t know I was stressed at all, I didn’t have a clue. 



I knew there were things wrong with me. But I thought those things were what was wrong with me rather than stress as the underlying cause. One day I went into work, fully intending to start my working day and I took one look at my computer. And it was like, it was like I was frozen. It was like, my body just finally went, “No, no more, let’s go, let’s leave.” 



I literally did walk out of work. 



And I never went back in the end. Didn’t know I wasn’t going to go back. I thought it was going to have a nap,

Stress Relief for Female Entrepreneurs with Clare Downham


Old-paradigm psychology can try to convince us that unwanted habits are caused by a need to feel loved or safe or cared for. It can feel like we’re using food, or other substances, to soothe or comfort ourselves. In this podcast episode we bust this myth and look toward the true origin of unwanted habits.



You can listen above, on your favorite podcast app, or watch on YouTube. Notes, links, resources and a full transcript are below.



Are you interested in connecting with others who are exploring this understanding? Would you like some coaching and ongoing support with an eye toward resolving an unwanted habit? Click the image below to learn about the Unbroken Community and join the waitlist.






Show Notes




* The five reasons an unwanted habit has nothing to do with replacing love



* Does it matter where our painful thoughts about food originate?



* On the fluidity of thought and how it can change, morph and disappear



* How the feeling connected to a thought is going to tell us if it’s the truth or a lie



* How it’s not on us to change, manage or control our thoughts



* How we are not in control of the timeline of when things change




Transcript of episode



Hello Explorers and welcome to episode 62 of Unbroken. I’m Alexandra Amor. I’m here today to talk about the really common myth that when we have an unwanted habit where we’re using that habit to replace love that we might feel that we are missing. 



So in other words, as it said on the title card for this episode, is food really love? Or is that a myth? I’m going to tell you why I think it’s a myth.



Before I say that, I should say that I think it makes sense that we came to that conclusion. And I know for me, I spent years and years trying to love myself in a way that would cause my unwanted overeating habit to disappear. And none of what I tried worked. I tried things like journaling, affirmations, radical self-compassion. What else was in that arena of loving ourselves? Cognitive behavioral therapy. I took a course I’ve talked about this before. And it was all about creating a loving feeling within ourselves. In order that our overeating habit would drop away. And none of that worked. 



I’m going to talk about that today and about what I see now, when we have the thought that we’re using a substance like food to try to replace love within ourselves.



Before we get into that, I want to quickly have a reminder here, that if you haven’t done so already, you can sign up for the waitlist for the Unbroken community. 



The address for that is AlexandraAmor.com/community. And there’s lots of information there on that page. 



The community will be launching later this year in 2024. And we will be having some live coaching in the community, we’ll have an online group, we’ll have a couple calls a month live with me. And as I say, all the details are there on that page, AlexandraAmor.com/community. 




Exploding The Myth That We’re Using Food To Replace Love


As a long-time coach, and before that an HR professional, Dominic Scaffidi points his clients back toward an awareness of their innate wisdom and ability to thrive effortlessly. He reminds us that we are always more than our human minds can grasp.




As a Master Certified Coach (MCC) credentialed with the International Coaching Federation (ICF) Dominic works with leaders, teams, entrepreneurs and individuals to achieve professional and personal aspirations. He points clients to a realization of who they really are as they focus on creating what they most desire in life.



Dominic is a Registered 3 Principles Practitioner who is grounded in the teaching of Sydney Banks.




You can find Dominic at DominicScaffidi.com and on Facebook.



You can listen above, on your favorite podcast app, or watch on YouTube. Notes, links, resources and a full transcript are below.



Show Notes




* On the overlap between the Law of Attraction and the Three Principles



* Being willing to sit in paradox and wait for clarity



* On the innate intelligence that flows through every living thing



* Our human ability to resist that intelligence with our thinking



* Manifesting: Allowing ourselves to perceive what already exists



* Following a good feeling toward what wants to be



* Your wisdom is always in a beautiful feeling



* How our feelings are always indicating what we’re thinking




Resources Mentioned in this Episode




* Michael Neill’s TedX Talk Why aren’t we awesomer?




Transcript of Interview with Dominic Scaffidi



Alexandra: Dominick Scaffidi, welcome to Unbroken.



Dominic: Thank you, thanks for the invitation. I’m really looking forward to our conversation.



Alexandra: Me too. I’ve never spoken to you one on one. So this will be fun. 



Tell us a little bit about your background and how you got interested in the Three Principles.



Dominic: I’ve been self-employed as a coach, executive coach, mostly. I deal with leaders and organizations like that. And I’ve been self-employed for about 15 years. Prior to that, tt was a corporate career that I had in very large organizations. The last corporate role that I held was a VP of HR position. And so that’s kind of a bit of that. 



My career has continually moved to more and more reflection of what I’m interested in, my passion. So that kind of relates to the Three Principles, in that my purpose in life, I say, is to awaken greatness. Maybe you could say it as to reveal greatness, to reveal what’s within us. And so that’s a link to what appealed to me about the Three Principles. 



Maybe seven or eight years ago, I came across the Principles and the teachings of Sydney banks, and they immediately resonated as this is true, this is pure truth. What he was pointing to, it was just obvious, it was obvious that this is just true. And so I became really interested in delving into that into that understanding, which is a deeper understanding of who I really am, my true nature and the nature of reality. 



Thriving Is Effortless with Dominic Scaffidi


So often we demonize our bad habits. But what if those habits are working to bring us messages about our perfect human design?



You can listen above, on your favorite podcast app, or watch on YouTube. Notes, links, resources and a full transcript are below.



Click the image below to learn about the Unbroken Community and join the waitlist.






Show Notes




* Your unwanted habit is not a problem



* The good feeling our habits point us toward



* How we are designed to return to a state of calm and quiet



* How understanding the nature of thought resolves habits



* The gift of knowing where our experience is coming from




Transcript of Episode



When we have an unwanted habit like overeating it can feel like there’s something broken about us. Our culture tends to shame those with unwanted habits and it is widely assumed that there is something wrong with anyone who struggles with them. Judgments, including self-judgments, are made about a perceived lack of discipline or lack of self-care. 



But what if an unwanted habit like overeating was a sign of all that’s right with you, not with something that’s wrong?



What if your unwanted habit is a solution, not a problem?



For decades, we’ve been approaching unwanted habits as though they are the enemy. How’s that working for us? Not well, I’d say. We only have to look at the rising statistics about obesity or drug and alcohol addiction to see that this seems to be a battle we’re losing. Badly.



In this course, I’d like to explore turning our attitude toward unwanted habits on its head. It’s so easy to misunderstand what an unwanted habit is trying to tell us, so we’ll explore the messages habits are trying to send us and how our unwanted habits are actually a perfect part of our innate design.



If that sounds absurd or ridiculous, consider that until very recently we thought we had only five senses. Scientists now identify more than 20. Things look true until we are presented with an alternative.



I’m Alexandra Amor and I’m an author, a podcaster, and someone who’s searched for answers about my own unwanted overeating habit for the past three decades. Name a strategy for resolving a habit and I’ve tried it. Nothing worked.



Then in 2017 I discovered a field of spiritual psychology that had me doubting my perceived brokenness and instead awakening to the innate well-being that is within all of us. This change in understanding has me looking toward my wholeness, rather than perceived brokenness, and has helped me to resolve so much of what I had been suffering with for years. It has led me back to my natural state of calm resilience. No will power required.



If you are someone who has an unresolved and unwanted habit that’s what I want to share with you in this course.



Lesson 1: Your habit is not a problem



Hello and welcome,



Have you ever found yourself engaged in a behaviour while simultaneously berating yourself for that behaviour? I’m guessing you answered yes to that question because the truth is almost all humans have this experience at one time or another. This is an unwanted habit.




* Smoking



* Drinking too much


Why Your Habit Proves You’re In Perfect Working Order


One Sunday afternoon in April a traveller and a podcaster meet and share a drive through the mountains of Vancouver Island. As a result, the podcaster is deeply moved by the message the traveller, and the universe, had for her.



You can listen above, on your favorite podcast app, or watch on YouTube. Notes, links, resources and a full transcript are below.



Show Notes




* Clarification about the traffic light metaphor



* Trusting a good feeling that comes with an unusual experience



* Following that good feeling



* Listening to nudges from the universe



* Listening to the feeling behind the words someone is sharing



* Learning to relax as a spiritual practice



* Noting the miracles and synchronicities that happen to us




Resources Mentioned in this Episode




* Michael Singer’s books are The Untethered Soul and The Surrender Experiment



* Dominic Scafidi and Grace Kelly’s Living Miraculously course




Transcript of Episode



Hello explorers and welcome to Unbroken. I’m Alexandra Amor. This is episode 59. Thank you for being here with me today.



I want to remind you that if you’re interested in joining the Unbroken Community, or at least getting on the waitlist there, you can do that at AlexandraAmor.com/community. That’s going to be an interactive twice monthly group call, lots of interaction with me, lots of support, lots of community, as the name implies, and connection with your fellow explorers. And all the details are on that webpage. As I said, AlexandraAmor.com/community. 



Second thing. Last week in Episode 58, partway through, I talked about the red, yellow, green light of truth of tuning into or leaning into connecting with our intuition about moving forward, which is going to connect to today’s show, actually. My friend who listens to this episode pointed out to me, she said, “When you’re talking about the red, green, yellow light, are you seeing that visually?” which made me realize, Oh, I didn’t really explain that properly, then.



The light metaphor that I used, really just explains a feeling. 



So when I say I would get a green light in my body, what I mean is, I feel it somewhere inside me. Now I specifically feel that feeling in my solar plexus, that’s the place where I always feel everything. You know how we talk about it, we have a gut feeling, I think that’s where that expression must come from. Because I always feel those things in the area of my solar plexus. Sort of behind my belly button. That part of my body.



When I feel green light feeling it’s there. I don’t see a green light or anything. Same with red, and then yellow. The yellow light’s kind of interesting, because it’s either it’s a little bit binary, you know, it’s a yes or no, very often. And I guess sometimes it feels like a well, you know, maybe maybe not, there’s a bit of hesitation there, it’s less, perhaps less dramatic than a full a no, full stop. So that maybe we could classify that as yellow light.



In your own experience, you might, if you give the traffic light metaphor a try,

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