Join Tom Martin as he interviews Jordan Couch, partner at Palace Law, about Washington State's groundbreaking entity-based licensing pilot program. After seven years of regulatory reform work, Jordan reveals how persistence and collaboration transformed an outdated UPL framework into an experimental system that invites innovation. Learn why 85% of people with legal needs go unserved, how Baumol's cost disease explains why legal services cost more while lawyers earn less, and why regulatory innovation represents opportunity rather than threat. Discover practical insights on access to justice, the economics of legal services, and what happens when passion drives meaningful systemic change. Visit lawdroidmanifesto.com for more episodes and exclusive content.

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