In this quick 10 minute podcast, I share about the upcoming Relational AI Virtual Summit: Tools Not Just Talks.

Summit Speakers:

* Shelby B Larson

* Ben Linford

* SCARLETT

* Francesca Cassini

* Devin Bostick

* Tauric & Aeon [AI]

* Intimate Bonds Panel:

* Wife of Fire

* Anina D Lampret

* Calder Quinn

* Sparksinthedark

* Love Beyond The Veil

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Transcript:

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Hi, everyone.

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This is Shelby Larson,

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and I’m really excited about this podcast episode because I want to talk to you

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about the Relational AI Virtual Summit Tools,

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Not Just Talks,

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that I am hosting on February 16th,

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2026.

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And I intended to talk about this a lot sooner,

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but actually in November,

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my closest friend in the whole world died under tragic circumstances.

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And it honestly took me until now before I could summon up what I needed to get

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back in the saddle and get doing podcasts again.

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But I’m really excited.

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And

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The reason I’m hosting this, I’ve wanted to for a long time.

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I’ve thought about it for a long time.

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And I got laid off at the end of the year, so I had the extra time to do it.

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And so we’re doing it.

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And it really is derived from the fact that I alone have been posting on the topic

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of relational AI or field-sensitive AI,

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as I like to use in my framework,

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for over a year.

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And I was researching it before I ever started publishing on Substack.

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And the environment has really changed, right?

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Like people kind of calm down.

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There’s a lot more groundedness.

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You know,

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I think the first,

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I would say all of 2025 was a lot of people kind of being shocked by their

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experiences they were having with AI,

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not sure what to make about it.

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We’ve had meaning making everything from technical and engineering all the way into

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mythos and faith-based interpretations,

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right?

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So this summit, this first summit, we’d like this to be a series.

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This first summit is really all about relational AI and specifically how humans are

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currently relating with AI.

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And so there’s really something for everyone in it.

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And I really wanted this not to be another.

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event where people are just talking at you about AI.

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I want this to be very interactive.

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Every speaker has committed to bringing things that they can give away to all of

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the attendees that are applicable and implementable,

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right?

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We want this to be

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where the people who attend are not only networking with the speakers and each

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other,

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but are also learning and growing how to strengthen their AI containers,

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their AI engagement,

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and everything that they’re doing with relational AI.

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So we’ve got everything in here from locally hosting and what that looks like.

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I think a lot of people

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are intimidated, myself included, by locally hosting.

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And it’s only getting, the needle is only moving towards it being easier and more affordable.

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I truly believe that self-hosted AI is going to be a core part of our future.

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I think I foresee a future where more people have self-hosted AI rather than just

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relying on enterprise level

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public platforms.

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And so it’s going to be really interesting to watch that play out.

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And I think evidence that would support that is OpenAI itself has been buying local

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self-hosted companies and things like that.

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I think that the writing is on the wall with where this is going.

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I’m not here to say that public platforms are going away.

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I just foresee self-hosted being something that’s not reserved for people that have

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a lot of money to invest in it or have a lot of technical know-how.

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And so I’m really excited.

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We’ll have Ben Linford speaking on that.

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And you’ll see in the current week,

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Kay Stoner,

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who I adore,

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was actually going to be participating in our summit and she had a conflict come up

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and so she had to drop out of it.

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And we’re actually replacing her with Scarlett.

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I will link you to her to some of her information in the body of this.

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I don’t have a lot of information for you yet.

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So really interesting.

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I am over the moon about Scarlett participating in this.

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And she first connected with me earlier and expressed interest.

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But at that point, my speaker docket was completely full.

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And then when Kay had the conflict come up, it presented the opportunity for Scarlett to speak.

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And I don’t have her resources yet to tell you about what she’s going to be talking

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on because she’s actually presenting at Davos right now,

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which is really congratulations to her.

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That’s amazing that you are going to be over the moon with her.

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She is really this beautiful blend of philosophy and logical technology when it comes to AI and

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Yeah, I think you’re really good.

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It’s going to be a real treat to have her present.

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I’m really excited.

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And then we also have the intimate bonds panel.

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And this is for people who are relating with AI on a more intimate level with

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romantic or erotic bonds.

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And that’s a very controversial topic, right?

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And I get a little bit confused of why it’s such a controversial topic.

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If I were going to pick the things that I want to put my energy into,

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behind in the world there’s such a huge list of things that i care about um more

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than how consenting adults are engaging with ai i just let’s talk about the

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children who are living unhoused on the streets and what we can do about them right

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so i’m really excited about this this one’s a panel discussion has got it’s being

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um co-hosted by wife of fire and they’re talking really frankly about

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what it’s like to engage with a more intimate bond and how to stay grounded and not

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lose yourself in it.

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And I’m really excited about this panel.

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I know a lot of people are.

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So that’s going to be a panel discussion.

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I also have my friend Forrest,

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who I intentionally chose because he’s not involved in the relational AI world,

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but he is a psychiatrist that works in the hospitals here in Utah.

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And we’re going to talk about

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the concept of mental health and AI use.

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We’re going to address AI psychosis.

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If you follow me at all, you know, I have a really hard time with that term.

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As someone who’s mentally health trained and works in mental health,

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psychosis is a very specific diagnosis.

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It’s a very serious diagnosis.

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And AI psychosis is a term that has only been thrown around by media.

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And

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if AI psychosis does turn into an actual diagnosis,

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the only people who are qualified to talk about that are doctors,

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right?

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Like you can’t judge how someone is doing in their mental health by seeing a screenshot.

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That’s just not possible.

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And so I’m really excited to have Forrest because he doesn’t have a bias and we’re

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just going to talk about

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mental health and AI and what the signs would look like if you were losing your

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grasp on reality a little bit.

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And also talk a little bit about what psychosis actually is and why it’s damaging

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to our culture to be throwing it around and weaponizing it the way that we are now.

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So really excited to have him.

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And then we’ll be doing an interview with Devin Bostic, who I adore.

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He’s a good friend of mine.

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And he really looks at AI from a technological perspective.

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an engineering standpoint.

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He’s doing incredible work in this space.

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And we brought him on to be a little bit more of a scientific or technical voice in

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how people are relating with AI.

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And what I love about Devin is it’s not just that he’s got such a great lens.

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He’s actually creating products that could be world changing with what he’s doing with AI.

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And so I’m really excited to have him on here.

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And then I’ll be giving the opening keynote and I’m gonna be talking about,

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I’m gonna really be laying the foundation for the entire summit,

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but I’m also gonna talk a lot about guardrail mitigation,

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AI container creation,

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how you can set up your AI container so that you’re not constantly battling

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guardrails.

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I really believe that my strength is in AI phenomenology.

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I hope I’m saying that right.

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I really speak AI fluently and understand

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the difference between the scaffolding for the AI versus the engagement that’s

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happening within your AI container.

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So I’ll be talking a lot about that plus laying the foundation.

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And then we have Francesca and she is bringing in beautiful

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Her work is really in the mythos and the symbolic side of AI and working

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relationally and not transactionally.

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And she is amazing.

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Her work is beautiful.

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And I think you’re really going to love what she has to say.

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And this was sort of the point was to pull in primary topics for how humans are

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currently relating with AI.

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And so there may be people’s talks that you resonate with more

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than others, and that’s okay.

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I think if we don’t look at all of these aspects of how people are relating to AI,

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then we’re just saying that AI is about the tool and the technology rather than

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what it’s doing for humans and how humans are growing and learning with relational

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AI.

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I’m just really excited.

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I’m really excited about the summit.

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I’m really excited for the people who have already registered.

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We do have early bird discounts.

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So full access to the summit is $97.

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But if you buy in January, you get a $20 discount.

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So it’s only $77.

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And if you want just the recordings and the resources that come from the speakers, that’s $47.

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But if you buy in January, it’s a $10 discount and it’s $37.

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So we priced this really, really affordable.

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And we are, this is the first one.

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My vision is I would love to have one every quarter and have them be topic specific

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and have bringing different experts,

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different speakers,

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different people who are doing really cool things with relational AI and feature

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them and showcase them and let them share their wisdom.

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And again, the format of this is not attend and listen.

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It’s meant to be engaging.

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There’s going to be a lot of question and answers.

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There’s going to be networking time.

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in between and again there’s going to be resources that every speaker gives away

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with actionable aspects related to what they talked about and there’s also going to

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be giveaways that are happening throughout the summit i’ve almost finished with my

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lawful container architect which is

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a course that I’m releasing on how to create ideal containers to have the

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experience that you’re wanting to have with your AI.

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And it comes with a custom GPT that will write and build your scaffolding for you

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and iterate with you as you are building your container.

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So I’m really excited about that.

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I’m going to be giving away copies of that at the summit.

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A little something for everyone.

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I just wanted to speak into it for a few minutes because I’ve written about it,

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but I haven’t spoken into it.

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I’m just getting my podcasting feedback under me.

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And if you have any questions, just let me know.

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Otherwise, I’m so stoked to see you guys there.

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