After 14 months away, Bridger and Caleb are back at the mics. In this special episode, they reflect on where life, work, and curiosity have taken them this past year—through doctoral defenses, major health challenges, and profound shifts in perspective. Along the way, they share what they’ve been reading, exploring, and creating: from consciousness studies and epistemology to Enneagram pathways and relational EMDR.

This isn’t just a catch-up—it’s a thoughtful, playful, and deeply human conversation about being therapists, being learners, and being alive.

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