The GovMaker Podcast

The Role of Complexity in Effective Governance with Dr. Alex Ryan


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In this conversation, Dr. Alex Ryan shares his journey into public service and transformation, discussing his experiences in the military, the founding of Alberta CoLab, and the challenges faced in public sector innovation. He emphasizes the importance of understanding complexity, the role of people in decision-making, and the need for adaptive learning in transformation efforts. Dr. Ryan reflects on his personal growth and offers advice for future leaders in navigating the complexities of public service.


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