The Brave Next Step

The Roles We Play: Navigating Leadership, Identity, and Organisational Dynamics


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In today’s episode, we’re digging into the roles we play - at work, at home, and in our heads. 

I’m joined by my new colleague Ben Gibbs, and we reflect on what happens when someone new joins your business, how identity gets wrapped up in leadership, and the subtle dance of navigating control, disruption, and trust.

We talk about relinquishing, rescuing, and that inner committee of roles (hello CEO, finance director, hiring manager…) that shows up when big decisions need to be made. 

It’s a reflective one, and a great listen if you’ve ever felt stretched between all the hats you wear - or are trying to figure out which ones you actually want to keep. Let’s dive in.

Here are the highlights:

Conflicted Decision-Making and Multiple Roles (2:24)

Negotiation and Disruption in Roles (4:28)

Parent-Child Relationship Parallels in Leadership (7:11)

Natural Roles and Organisational Culture (12:26)

Informal Roles and Responsibilities (12:59)

Reflecting on Roles and Decision-Making (17:20)

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The Brave Next StepBy Emma Canter