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In this episode, Janey is joined by Penny and Verity, founders of the Architecture & Design Library and your regular co-hosts, for a heartfelt conversation about the spaces that shaped who we are. From childhood bedrooms to family homes under construction, and even unforgettable bathrooms, we explore the memories and moments that made us fall in love with interiors.

We reflect on how rooms can impact us beyond design — stirring feelings of belonging, safety, and creativity. Together we uncover the textures, colors, and light that make a space feel like home, and share the lessons these spaces taught us about life, resilience, and trust.

This episode is full of stories, laughter, and insights into the personal side of design — perfect for anyone who has ever stepped into a room and felt changed by it.

 Have a question for Penny and Verity? Send us a message on Instagram @betweentheII_IIs

In this episode you’ll hear about:

• Childhood bedrooms and the freedom to create a space of your own
• What it was like growing up in homes built and renovated by family
• Why bathrooms became surprising classrooms for design inspiration
• How color, light, and texture transform the way we feel in a room
• The mentors, advice, and instincts that still guide us today
• Why intuition is one of the most valuable tools in design (and life)
• Personal reflections on creativity, balance, and showing up every day
  
  

Reflections from Penny & Verity:

“Some spaces teach us through beauty — others through challenge. Either way, they shape who we are.”
 “Design isn’t just visual. It’s about how a space makes you feel — safe, inspired, or simply at home.”
 “Trusting your gut gets easier with experience, but it’s one of the most powerful tools you have.”

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