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Bill and Pete get personal about a shared health detour—early-detected prostate cancer—and how "health meets wealth" shows up in real life. They unpack the emotional and practical steps (baselines, deltas, options, decisions), then pivot to Pete's new niche venture: Certified Exit Planning Advisor (CEPA) work and the launch of The Confident Exit podcast for business owners.
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00:00 – Welcome & context Bill opens the show and explains they've been on a brief hiatus; Pete joins remotely from San Francisco (actual hotel room, not a virtual background).
00:43 – Where's Pete? Pete's calling in from San Francisco, CA; quick banter about travel and being "alongside on screen."
01:13 – Why the hiatus It's "been a minute." They tee up a candid health conversation and a new podcast announcement.
01:30 – Health Meets Wealth (Chapter call-back) Bill frames the pause through the lens of the book's "health meets wealth" theme.
01:39 – Pete's health journey (early detection) A year-long series of tests escalates from "yellow flag" to "red flags." Diagnosis: prostate cancer, caught early. Pete opts for surgery (early May), good recovery, and gratitude for proactive care and skilled medical teams.
03:18 – Bill's parallel path Family history heightens vigilance. Bill tracks PSA trend (delta) even while within "normal," leading to MRI → biopsy. 04:34 – Valentine's Day twist: both brothers end up getting biopsies the same day—unknowingly.
04:45 – Diagnosis details & options Bill's Gleason score is a bit lower; he explores alternatives (incl. TULSA-PRO) and clinical trials comparing it to standard surgery. Randomized to surgery; undergoes laparoscopic removal at end of July. Two months post-op at recording—healing well.
06:32 – The headspace & decision process Choosing among credible options; balancing personal values, family impact, and medical clarity. Pete's approach: execute step-by-step (don't over-project), while noting loved ones may process differently.
10:24 – September awareness It's Prostate Cancer Awareness Month; heightened appreciation this year. 10:36 – Community support: Blue Ribbon Soirée involvement becomes part of their ongoing advocacy.
10:51 – "Snakes on the runway" Bill's milestone moments: heart scare at 50; prostate surgery at 60. The "snake in the grass" metaphor from the book—find it, step over it, deal with it—and the humor (what happens at 70/80?).
11:35 – The big takeaway: baselines Be proactive: get baseline labs and track the delta annually. You owe it to yourself and your tribe (family, partners, employees). Tie-in to CYA360 themes: key-person health risk to a business.
12:54 – Bites & Insights + "Glimpse of the Future" At Horizon lunches, they use the handout to project yourself—and your tribe—forward in 5-year increments. Planning for your future self is easier when you visualize loved ones aging too.
15:28 – Cognitive risk in later years Stats awareness (e.g., dementia/Alzheimer's prevalence in the 80s) reminds listeners to pre-plan for wealth protection as cognition can decline—even for once-meticulous stewards.
16:26 – Making the future "feel real" Bill's example of projecting his daughter's milestones to make his future tangible (weddings, timing, costs).
17:16 – Time flies 59½ used to feel far away; now it's in view or in the rear-view. Keep thinking ahead; stay systematic about savings, investing, and health check-ups.
18:02 – Programming note: Pete's new focus This is Pete's last regular Runway Decade episode for a while. He's leaning into exit planning (CEPA) with a new podcast: The Confident Exit.
18:29 – Why exit planning now Background: client exits, Horizon's own acquisitions, and a maturing ecosystem (valuation, legal, tax). Show format returns to guests—experts surrounding business owners.
20:08 – Where to find it HorizonFG.com → Business Exit Planning page; podcast hosted there and on Apple/Libsyn. Three episodes recorded and rolling out.
20:34 – The niche Just like Runway Decade targets 50-somethings, The Confident Exit targets owners with most of their wealth locked in one illiquid asset—the business. Goal: help monetize and design "what's next."
21:36 – Wrap & contacts Bill: [email protected], RunwayDecade.com contact box, or HorizonFG.com. Pete: [email protected]; follow his exit-planning articles and podcast clips on LinkedIn and Horizon's site. Safe travels & sign-off.
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Disclosure
The views depicted in this material are for information purposes only and are not necessarily those of Cetera Advisors LLC. They should not be considered specific advice or recommendations for any individual. Neither Cetera Advisors LLC nor any of its representatives may give legal or tax advice.
Bill Bush, Andy Bush, and Pete Bush are registered representatives offering securities and advisory services through Cetera Advisors LLC, member FINRA/SIPC, a broker-dealer, and registered investment advisor. Cetera is under separate ownership from any other named entity.
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In this episode of The Runway Decade Podcast, Bill and Pete Bush dive into the vital subject of exit planning for business owners, particularly those in their fifties. Pete shares insights from earning his Certified Exit Planning Advisor (CEPA) designation and outlines how business owners can start planning for a successful exit—years in advance. They walk through the three-legged stool of readiness, the impact of intangible capital, the structure of a successful exit team, and the value acceleration methodology that helps business owners be always ready, not just at retirement. Whether you're just starting or thinking about selling in a few years, this episode provides a roadmap to begin preparing now.
Chapters:
00:20 – Introduction to Exit PlanningBill and Pete catch up and introduce the topic: exit planning for business owners, especially during their runway decade.
00:45 – CEPA Designation and ExperiencePete explains his journey to becoming a Certified Exit Planning Advisor and how it's deepened his ability to help business owners prepare for transition.
03:03 – The Three-Legged Stool of ReadinessThey break down the three aspects of readiness:
05:29 – The Risk of Staying Too LongPete discusses how lack of personal planning can derail transitions and why some owners resist exiting due to uncertainty about the next chapter of life.
06:50 – Staying On as a Transition StrategyThey explore when it makes sense for an owner to stay on post-sale to de-risk the transition for a buyer.
07:35 – Understanding Intangible CapitalPete details the four types of intangible capital that can drive 75–80% of a business's value:
12:31 – Building Your Exit Planning TeamPete outlines the key players in an exit planning team:
16:00 – Diversifying Outside the BusinessThey discuss why it's crucial for business owners to build wealth outside the business to reduce personal concentration risk.
18:23 – Exit Planning = Business PlanningPete explains how treating the business as an investment and preparing for transferability is just good business sense.
19:34 – When Should Exit Planning Start?Answer: Now. Pete introduces the Value Acceleration Methodology:
21:46 – How to Find a CEPA & What They OfferResources for finding a Certified Exit Planning Advisor, including:
24:55 – Final Thoughts & Contact InfoBusiness owners can contact Pete Bush at [email protected] for free resources, checklists, or a discussion about their exit goals. Website: HorizonFG.com
Key Takeaways:
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"The three-legged stool of readiness." "What do you want to do with your time?" "Get in touch with a CEPA for guidance." "Exit planning is now, not later."
Contact Info:
Pete Bush: [email protected]
Bill Bush: [email protected]
www.horizonfg.com
www.runwaydecdade.com
collection of quotes—from their book and beyond—that offer meaningful lessons about personal responsibility, discipline, investing, and long-term planning. Each quote sparks discussion on how these timeless insights apply to real financial life, especially for those in their 50s preparing for retirement. From Yogi Berra to Warren Buffett, the conversation is packed with wisdom and motivation to take action and shape your future today.
⏱ Time-Stamped Show Notes & Chapters:
00:00 – Preflight Announcement & Intro to the Theme The brothers set the tone with a fun "tray tables up" nod and explain that this episode will explore favorite quotes from The Runway Decade book and others that speak to sound financial behavior and mindset.
01:12 – Take Action: The Best Time to Start is Now 📌 "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is today." This Chinese proverb kicks off the episode's recurring theme: It's never too late to start improving your financial future.
01:42 – Vivid Vision and Belief Drive Results 📌 "Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe, and enthusiastically act upon must inevitably come to pass." – Paul J. Meyer Pete shares how this quote shaped his mindset as a young athlete and business owner.
02:23 – Personal Responsibility: Your Future is Up to You 📌 "If it is to be, it is up to me." – William Johnson This quote reinforces the importance of ownership and self-leadership in financial planning.
03:03 – Direction Matters: Avoid Aimlessness 📌 "If you don't know where you're going, you'll probably end up someplace else." – Yogi Berra A light-hearted quote with a serious message about setting goals.
03:26 – Discipline Over Regret 📌 "You either pay the price of discipline or the price of regret." – Dr. Kevin Elko The brothers break down the concept that time is spent either way—so make it count.
03:58 – Momentum Begins with One Step 📌 "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." Get moving—even small steps build confidence and create forward motion.
04:34 – Don't Be Fooled: It's Not Different This Time 📌 "The four most dangerous words in investing are: 'It's different this time.'" – Sir John Templeton A reality check on emotional decision-making during market turbulence.
05:38 – Fear as a Liar 📌 "I've lived through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened." – Mark Twain A discussion on how fear can distort financial decisions and what to do about it.
06:39 – Volatility Is a Fee, Not a Fine 📌 "Volatility is not a fine, it's a fee." – Morgan Housel Reframing volatility as a normal, expected part of long-term investing.
07:38 – How You Think About the Problem Matters 📌 "The problem is never the problem. The problem is how you think about the problem." – Dan Sullivan Strategies exist—but mindset is the real differentiator in financial success.
08:18 – Flexibility Is Essential: Plans Go Awry 📌 "The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry." – Robert Burns Pete and Bill discuss risk, adaptability, and the unknowns that lie beyond your plan.
09:20 – The Value of Trusted Guides 📌 "If we are lucky, we get a few trusted guides." – B. Barton Retirement is a one-time event—having someone who's guided many through it is invaluable.
10:50 – Why Quotes Matter The brothers reflect on why they included quotes in every chapter of their book and how they simplify complex ideas into digestible insights.
11:30 – Bonus Quotes That Didn't Make the Book A series of impactful financial quotes outside of The Runway Decade begins here.
11:40 – Warren Buffett: Planting for the Future 📌 "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." A deeper take on long-term investing and legacy building.
12:31 – Small Leaks Can Sink Ships 📌 "Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship." – Benjamin Franklin Watch out for everyday budget erosion—it adds up quickly.
13:25 – Know What You Own 📌 "Know what you own and know why you own it." – Peter Lynch A reminder to be intentional and informed, especially with complex investments.
14:53 – Preparation + Opportunity = Good Fortune 📌 "Good fortune is what happens when opportunity meets with planning." – Thomas Edison Practice, plan, and be ready to seize your moment.
15:43 – Patience Wins 📌 "The big money is not in the buying or selling, but in the waiting." – Charlie Munger Ronald Read's example is used to highlight how patience builds wealth.
16:15 – Impulse vs. Time 📌 "Time is your friend; impulse is your enemy." – John C. Bogle The father of index investing explains why behavior matters more than strategy.
16:42 – Play Long-Term Games with Long-Term People 📌 "Play long-term games with long-term people." – Naval Ravikant Success multiplies when you build with the right people over time.
17:45 – Spend with Intention 📌 "Spend extravagantly on the things you love, and cut costs mercilessly on the things you don't." – Ramit Sethi Why budgeting with purpose leads to richer experiences.
18:10 – Know Where You Stand First 📌 "Knowing where you stand is the first step to getting where you want to go." Start with clarity. "You are here" is the first step on any map—including your retirement plan.
19:16 – Zoom Out: The Market Always Goes Up 📌 "The market always goes up—not every day, not every month, not every year—but always over time." – J.L. Collins Pete and Bill talk about optimism in American business and why perspective is everything.
21:30 – Prepare, Don't Predict 📌 "You can't predict, but you can prepare." – Howard Marks There are no facts about the future—but there is power in preparation, goals, and adaptability.
22:57 – Final Thoughts & Call to Action The brothers recap the value of the quotes and invite listeners to reflect and take the next step.📬 Contact Bill at [email protected] or Pete at [email protected].💻 Or visit TheRunwayDecade.com
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In this episode, Bill and Pete Bush take a deep dive into the various risks associated with retirement. Drawing from their ongoing studies for the RICP (Retirement Income Certified Professional) designation, they unpack key categories of risk that can derail even the most well-thought-out retirement plans. From longevity and health concerns to market volatility and public policy shifts, they emphasize the need for proactive planning, emergency buffers, and a realistic outlook. This is not about fear—it's about readiness.
⏱️ Episode Timestamps & Topics:
00:00 – Intro: Fasten Your Seatbelts The episode takes off with a familiar aviation metaphor as the Bush brothers cue up a conversation rooted in both experience and education.
00:21 – Retirement Risks Overview & RICP Insight Bill mentions their RICP studies and how this inspired today's topic. Risks discussed include longevity, inflation, and withdrawal rate risk.
01:45 – Longevity Risk & The Illusion of "My People Don't Live That Long" People often underestimate how long they'll live. Life expectancy continues to rise, and the stat of a 65-year-old couple having a 50% chance that one spouse lives to 90+ is spotlighted.
02:53 – Longevity = More Time for Inflation to Hurt Longer life means more years for inflation to compound. Staying active longer also often means higher expenses.
04:14 – Aging & Health Expense Risks Health risks include long-term care, frailty, and even financial elder abuse. Health expenses are cited as the #1 cause of bankruptcy in retirement.
05:56 – Beyond Healthcare: Adapting Your Environment From needing a stair lift to remodeling a home for accessibility, aging has unexpected costs. Elder financial abuse often comes from trusted individuals—not just scammers.
07:34 – Investment Risks & The Sequence of Return Trap Sequence of return risk is explained in depth: how bad early market years can cause a retiree to "sell more shares" to generate income. Strategies like bucket planning and income "flooring" are discussed.
09:34 – Income Layers & The 7-Layer Dip Analogy Each retiree's income is like a layered dip: Social Security, pensions, investments, etc. Building the right layers is essential for long-term sustainability.
10:50 – Work-Related Risks: Forced Retirement & Reemployment Many people plan to work longer than they actually do. COVID showed us that employer insolvency and sudden job loss can strike at any time.
11:50 – The Illusion of Control The idea that we control all outcomes is often false. Surprise is the "mother of all panic," especially in investments. A strong buffer (emergency fund) is essential.
13:34 – Family-Related Risks: Loss of Spouse & Surprise Expenses Losing a spouse can lead to emotional devastation and a significant drop in income. Taxes change, Social Security benefits can decrease, and stress may impact health.
14:32 – The Goal is Awareness, Not Fear Planning for these risks is just like buying insurance. You hope you won't need it—but you're covered if something happens.
15:02 – Timing & Policy Risks Interest rate shifts can hurt lump sums from pensions. Laws change—like the SECURE Act—and future changes to taxes, Social Security, or Medicare could impact retirees.
17:29 – Planning for the Unknown You can't control everything, but you can create buffers. "Risk is what's left over after you think you've thought of everything." – Morgan Housel
18:30 – Don't Worry Alone: Seek Guidance The brothers encourage listeners to reach out if they feel uncertain. Asking the right questions—and having a trusted guide—can make all the difference.
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In this episode of The Runway Decade Podcast, Bill and Pete discuss the intersection of baseball and financial planning. They explore how teamwork, coaching, and early financial education shape success, drawing insightful parallels between the sport they love and the business they live in day-to-day. From the importance of visualization and mindset to the timeless principles that stand the test of time, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways for both baseball enthusiasts and financial planners alike.
Key Topics:
00:01 – Introduction
02:11 – Baseball Season & Personal Connections
06:15 – Teamwork in Baseball & Financial Planning
09:35 – The Role of Coaching in Both Worlds
12:27 – The Impact of Early Financial Education
14:49 – Timeless Principles in Baseball & Finance
17:27 – The Importance of Visualization & Mindset
22:46 – Conclusion & Call to Action
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This episode highlights the deep connection between baseball and financial planning, demonstrating how teamwork, coaching, and strategic thinking apply to both. Whether you're a baseball fan, an investor, or someone navigating financial decisions, the lessons from this discussion will help you step up to the plate with confidence.
Contact:
www.runwaydecade.com
Episode Highlights with Timestamps
[00:00] Introduction: Cleared for Takeoff
[02:00] Why New Year's Resolutions Fail
[04:00] Start the Year with a Financial Check-In
[06:30] Chapter Spotlight: "Where Are You Now?"
[08:45] Health Goals: Making it to and Through Retirement
[11:30] The Role of Relationships in Longevity
[13:45] Who Not How: Leveraging Your Network
[15:30] Pickleball and Social Fitness
[18:00] Three Years of Podcasting
[20:45] Looking Ahead to 2025
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Contact Us: Have questions or want to connect? https://www.runwaydecade.com/#contact
In this episode of The Runway Decade Podcast, Bill Bush and Brother Pete focus on the importance of adopting the right mindset as the year ends. They emphasize actionable steps for financial planning, highlight key year-end deadlines, and discuss how proactive health and financial practices overlap. Reflecting on their personal experiences and the importance of gratitude, they guide listeners on how to approach 2025 with clarity and intention.
Key Discussion Points
00:00 – Introduction to the Runway Decade Podcast
02:03 – Year-End Reflections and Planning for 2024
08:00 – Mindset for Financial Success in the New Year
14:03 – Health and Financial Well-Being
19:58 – Closing Thoughts and Holiday Wishes
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Introduction Hosts Bill and Pete Bush dive into a thought-provoking discussion about a pivotal moment in every financial journey where "the road diverges." This episode explores the crucial choice people face when determining their financial future—one path leading to confidence, success, and security, while the other leads to regret and missed opportunities. Bill and Pete share insights on why some struggle to choose the more secure path and how to build momentum toward financial confidence.
Episode Highlights
· [00:22] The Diverging Path Bill and Pete explore the concept that, at some point in every financial journey, "the road diverges," presenting two potential paths. One path leads to confidence, success, and financial security, while the other can result in regret, doubt, and missed opportunities. They reflect on how people often face this crossroads, and while most would choose the path toward security and fulfillment, various obstacles keep them from progressing. The hosts suggest that identifying these roadblocks and addressing them head-on is key to staying on the path toward financial well-being.
· [02:31] Taking the First Step Tackling financial goals can feel daunting, but Bill and Pete emphasize the importance of taking that first small step. They use the analogy of "eating an elephant one bite at a time" to illustrate how consistent, small actions over time create lasting results. They mention that inertia is a common issue; taking that initial step is often the hardest part, but once in motion, people tend to continue on the path. Pete highlights the incremental nature of retirement accounts like 401(k)s, where small, regular contributions accumulate into significant assets over time.
· [04:52] Future Self Visualization Bill and Pete dive into the psychology behind why people struggle to save for their future selves. Citing Dr. Hal Hershfield's research on future self-visualization, they explain that many people see their future selves as strangers, making it harder to feel a connection and prioritize future financial needs. Pete shares his experience hearing Hershfield speak and recommends watching Hershfield's TED Talk. By better visualizing their future selves, people can build empathy for their future needs, leading to more proactive financial planning.
· [07:16] The Do-It-Yourself Mentality vs. Seeking Guidance While self-management of finances may seem appealing, Bill and Pete discuss the pitfalls of a purely DIY approach. They share how the guidance of a financial advisor can help overcome cognitive and emotional barriers to financial success. Using examples like gym coaching, they highlight that just as fitness requires discipline and consistency, managing finances requires behavioral coaching to stay on track. Advisors provide accountability, expertise, and reassurance, especially during volatile market periods, ensuring that clients maintain a long-term view.
· [14:30] Too Much Plane for One Person to Fly Drawing from The Checklist Manifesto, Bill recounts the story of an early Boeing aircraft, too complex for one pilot to operate alone. This story serves as an analogy for complex financial lives that become too intricate for individuals to manage without assistance. Bill and Pete observe that, as people progress through life, they accumulate assets and liabilities, making their financial plans increasingly intricate. This is where financial advisors bring value—helping clients coordinate the many moving parts of their finances to ensure stability and direction,
· [16:56] Resource Highlight: 50 Ways an Advisor Can Help You Bill and Pete introduce their latest resource, a downloadable PDF titled 50 Ways Financial Advisors Can Help You. This guide outlines both common and unexpected ways an advisor can add value, from tax-efficient strategies and risk management to behavioral coaching and legacy planning. They focus on six key areas:
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· "The road does separate, one path leads to confidence."
· "Successful people do things that others won't do."
· "Take that one first step, whatever that is for you."
Conclusion If the conversation resonates and you're considering moving away from the "do-it-yourself" model to seeking professional guidance, Bill and Pete invite you to reach out. With resources at RunwayDecade.com and Horizon FG's website, they offer various ways to connect, either in person or virtually, for anyone ready to take that first step.
Resources Mentioned
This link provides an in-depth look at the variety of ways advisors can add value, from practical strategies to behavioral insights, helping clients achieve their financial goals.
Contact Information For more insights, connect with Bill and Pete through the runwaydecade.com or Horizon FG websites. They welcome questions and are ready to help listeners build clarity and direction toward financial security.
In this episode of The Runway Decade, Bill and Pete dive into the crucial topic of taking action in financial planning. They emphasize the importance of creating an actionable checklist and how an accountability partner can help keep you on track. The discussion highlights the psychological concept of visualizing your future self and its impact on your current financial decisions. Throughout the episode, Bill and Pete stress that planning without implementation is meaningless and that financial progress comes from adapting your plans to life's changing circumstances. They encourage listeners to take the first step, no matter how small, to build momentum toward financial success.
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Summary: In this episode of The Runway Decade Podcast, Bill and Pete Bush of Horizon Financial Group and authors of the book The Runway Decade, discuss the various strategies and financial vehicles available to help you achieve your retirement goals. They dive into the importance of planning for a potentially lengthy retirement, managing risk versus volatility, and the significance of having the right tools to ensure financial success.
Key Topics Discussed:
[00:00] Planning for Retirement: Funding Your Desired Lifestyle
Understanding where you are now and where you want to go.
The importance of having a clear vision for your retirement lifestyle.
How to fund your retirement goals with discretionary cash and investments.
[03:04] Understanding Risk and Volatility in Investing
Clarification of the difference between market risk and volatility.
The importance of staying invested in equities to combat inflation.
Reference to Sir John Templeton's quote on market behavior.
[05:22] Investing in Large Companies as an Inflation Hedge
Discussion on how big companies and the S&P 500 play a role in long-term growth.
The impact of inflation on purchasing power and the importance of investing in equities.
[07:46] Avoiding Common Investment Mistakes
Discussion on different financial products like annuities, bonds, and equities.
Avoiding common investment mistakes, particularly in tax planning.
[09:42] The Importance of Personalized Financial Advice
The significance of working with a financial advisor who can provide personalized guidance.
Avoiding the "one-size-fits-all" approach to retirement planning.
[17:30] Building a Diverse Portfolio with Different Investment Tools
The importance of having a diversified investment strategy.
Matching the right financial tools with your retirement goals and the role of various investment vehicles.
Quote of the Episode:
"Among the most dangerous words in investing are, 'It's different this time.'"
Closing Remarks:
Reminder: Your retirement plan should be as unique as you are. The right tools and strategies will vary based on individual circumstances.
Next Steps: Consider consulting with a financial advisor who can help you navigate your specific retirement journey with a tailored approach.
Resources Mentioned:
www.runwaydecade.com
www.horizonfg.com
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