In this episode we are speaking about ESG, with a bit of a focus on the S or Social as you’ll surmise as we get into this.  I’m joined by two from the ESG and impact area: one with decades of grassroots ESG quant background and a platform, now, to determine if as many as 30,000 companies are doing what they say they are.  The other has a broad view of ESG from a chair at a major global association that creates standards that can be used across a variety of industries and fulfilling requirements by many stakeholders.