We speak with Randy Hein about the concept of the sacred and the secular. The division is one that has often proven to be judgmental at best and dangerous at worst. We talk about how this division is one that has been present in the upbringing of many people who had or have familiarity with church. What are some better ways forward?

Books and articles referenced in this episode:

A Secular Age – Charles Taylor

Letters and Papers from Prison – Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Episode Terminology:

Dualism - a philosophical consideration that there is a very strong distinction between mind and body. Dualism can lead to a sharp distinction between the physical and the spiritual.

Manichaeism - a form of dualism that draws sharp lines between elevated spirituality and what it considers fallen physical or material. A popular example of Manicaheistic understanding is arguably present in “The Force” from the Star Wars movies.

This episode we enjoyed a selection of donuts from Harmony Donut Shop in North Vancouver.

Coming Up; Friday Oct. 30 - Bonus Episode, Just in time for the American election. "Republican Jesus"