Doc Martin talks with Jamey Ramer, a safety professional currently working in the lumber manufacturing industry. Jamey did not take a "traditional" path to safety, working his way through the ranks and different industries.

He talks about the struggles with the stress of being a safety professional including the stress of "safety" being blamed and having to take on uncomfortable aspects of the job, such as assisting in layoffs.

Jamey talks about empathy, integrity, and standing your ground when you have to and caring for others above yourselves before yourself.