If you have ever needed a reminder of just how beautiful it can be to be considered a "late bloomer" this episode is it.

An artist who embodies what it means to keep putting themselves out there when it would be easier to submit to the rejection this industry can force you to face especially as a child is an artist worth getting to know beyond their craft; this is Olen.

Host: @gimmemoalex on instagram

Guest: @olenismyname on instagram