Andrew Greenstein welcomes Chris McCarthy, VP of Strategy and Design at Hopelab, a social innovation lab focused on designing science-based technologies to improve the mental health and well being of teens and young adults.

Chris pulls from his experience leading innovation at Kaiser Permanente to talk about the importance of getting frontline workers involved in innovation efforts, how a game helped save children’s lives, and why an innovation lab that works is flipping its model.

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