That’s What I Meant To Say

The Scroll Precedes the Sword


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This episode presents a dialogue exploring how religious rhetoric functioned as a form of political power in colonial New England. The conversation examines how Puritan clergy used biblical typology to justify political authority, shape collective identity, and frame historical events as divine confirmation. It also highlights dissenting voices such as Robert Cushman and Roger Williams, whose challenges to this system laid early foundations for religious liberty and the separation of church and state. The discussion traces how these colonial debates continue to echo in modern American political rhetoric.

Topics Covered

* Biblical typology and Puritan political authority

* Religion as a legitimizing force in colonial governance

* Robert Cushman’s critique of prophetic nationalism

* Roger Williams and the origins of church–state separation

* John Cotton and clerical authority

* The persistence of “chosen nation” rhetoric in modern America

* The enduring power of language to define collective identity

Resources

Madsen, D. L. (1992). The sword or the scroll: The power of rhetoric in colonial New England. American Studies, 33(1), 45–61.

Referenced Figures

* John Winthrop

* Roger Williams

* Robert Cushman

* John Cotton

* Ronald Reagan

Rhetoric, Puritanism, Colonial New England, Roger Williams, Church and State, American Exceptionalism, Political Language, Power and Identity

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That’s What I Meant To SayBy James D. Newcomb