In this episode, Brian and Nate discuss how utopian bottom-up decision-making schemes might compare to the top-down control we’re stuck with. The lads then discuss the deplorable state of American politics and whether a wolf is preferable to a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Finally, apocalypses of both the climate change and of the Christian variety come up, and the guys wonder whether Jesus needed to exist bodily in order to have the massive impact on history that he has.

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