William S. "Bill" English is, maybe, the forgotten "Bill" of 80s and 90s UFOlogy. his claims were extraordinary. His story was exciting and entertaining. Featuring clips from some classic UFO radio programming, and from the infamous 1989 MUFON conference, this was a fun episode to put together and we think it's a bit of a sleeper.

Special thanks to some folks who pointed us in some directions and provided some background: Adam Gorightly, Jack Brewer of the UFO Trail, and one of our behind-the-scenes heroes, Jack Shepherd.

Reading and resources

Revelations: Alien Contact and Human Deception at Amazon

THE GRUDGE/BLUE BOOK INCIDENT by William S. English

John Lear's summary of English's claims (via archive.org)

"10 UFO Stories from the Vietnam War Era" at Mysterious Universe, which recounts English's "B-52" recovery story with no indication of English's other experiences in the UFO realm.

Curt Collins's interview with English, which is mostly about the Cash-Landrum case, but also refers to the Grudge/BB 13 material

More info on the people and events discussed in this episode can be found in our episodes on the early internet UFO scene, OH Krill, and Bill Cooper.

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