In 2002, largely behind the scenes, the Democratic leader of the state Senate was toppled and the rise of David Paterson began. The change in power was aided by a relative newcomer to the chamber, Neil Breslin, who joined the podcast to reflect on the last successful coup in the Capitol. He revealed the secret conversations to recruit support for Paterson, explained how the failed challenge to Sheldon Silver informed their efforts and reflected on why there was a desire in the conference to replace Marty Connor.

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