Elise Loehnen might not feel like a celebrity at first glance, but her work is something that we're all extremely familiar with. Once in the pocket of wellness queen Gwyneth Paltrow as Goop's Chief Content Officer, Elise co-hosted the hit Netflix series Goop Lab, as well as the Goop podcast. 

But now, she's here to talk about something that is entirely and completely hers - her newly released book, On Our Best Behaviour: The Price Women Pay To Be Good.

On this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and Elise are chatting about the reality of that elusive Good Girl status, the punishment for female desire and what it takes to realise what we really want. 

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