Who lives in Sunday school classrooms?! Retired Pastor James Dill, Founder of The Shepherd's Heart, joins Cathy to tell personal stories from a lifetime of leadership. He's convinced everyone faces discouragement and burn-out, especially those who follow a calling from the Lord. Pastor James shares candidly about how lay leaders and pastors can come together to spread blessings all across American communities. If you're wondering what you can do to promote unity and compassion in your community, you'll love what this good man shares!