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Season 5  Episode 4 The Beard Speaks Podcast.

In this episode of The Beard Speaks Podcast, Pat sits down with Author Lisa Goodpaster. 

Today, we are shifting gears to tackle a heavy, heartbreaking, but incredibly important subject that silently tears families apart: Parental Alienation.

Joining the show is author, motivational speaker, and founder of The Stephood Project, Lisa Goodpaster Lisa doesn't just study this topic from afar—she lived it. Bringing the rare and powerful perspective of the alienated child, Lisa opens up about the devastating psychological toll of being weaponized in a high-conflict family dynamic and the long road to healing.

With over 2,000 hours of her own trauma therapy behind her, Lisa is now one of the most sought-after experts on alienated child trauma. We dig deep into what parental alienation actually looks like from the inside out, why the system often fails these families, and how we can better protect kids from this form of psychological abuse.

In This Episode, We Cover:

• The Child’s Perspective: What it actually feels like to be the alienated child caught in the crossfire of high-conflict separation.
• Defining the Abuse: Unpacking the definition of parental alienation and how the favored parent indoctrinates the child against the rejected parent.
• The Stephood Project: Lisa discusses the mission behind her social awareness campaign and the dangers of failing to co-parent effectively.
• The Path to Healing: Why traditional family therapy often misses the mark in alienation cases, and what trauma-informed recovery actually requires.
• Breaking the Cycle: Actionable advice for families, professionals, and anyone struggling to understand or support alienated children.

Guest Resources:

• Learn more about Lisa’s work: Lisa's Website / The Stephood Project
• Lisa's Book: Alienated: When Parents Won't Parent 
• Follow Lisa Goodpaster: Facebook Instagram
• Resources for Parental Alienation: Hope In Darkness

Music in this episode by Catalano and The Pat Catalano Project

Burn - Catalano (Album) Into the Darkness

Reborn - The Pat Catalano Project  (Album) Paper Crowns

Note to listeners: This episode discusses heavy emotional topics. If you are struggling with your mental health, please reach out to a professional or a support group for alienated parents.

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