In this episode, we dive into world-building. From cosy fantasy lands with dragon lore to the everyday worlds we shape in real life. We explore how detail creates credibility, why shared story gives us belonging, and how algorithms can quietly script our “outer guidance” unless we practise discernment. We contrast speed with slowness (hello, tortoise and hare), touch on Indigenous lore and ritual as anchors for meaning, and share practices like sit-spots and non-thinking to reconnect with place, body, and each other.

Along the way, Ben tells a tender story from therapy about shifting from doing to being; Melis unpacks curiosity and capacity as antidotes to ‘othering’; together we imagine contemporary ‘salons’ where communities talk, feel, and co-create kinder narratives. If you’ve been craving less noise and more nuance, this conversation offers a gentle blueprint for building worlds that are balanced, plural, and deeply human.

Notes:

Melis mentions a book called The Value of Everything by Mariana Mazzucato.

Melis also mentions an ancient spiritual text called the Tao Te Ching.

Credits:

Music: Goodnight - Lo Fi Cozy Chill Music by FASSounds from Pixabay

Podcast recorded at: Image Online in Abbotsford, Melbourne

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