Writer Jardine Libaire joins Lacey to talk about her book The Sober Lush, a collection of nonfiction essays. They talk about tapping into the pleasure and beauty of a sober life and how the book's contents can be a help to people in early sobriety as a way to get through cravings as well as a source of inspiration for someone with more time. They also talk about how many of the ideas in the book are particularly helpful during a pandemic and how important community is in staying sober.