In this episode, Tammy speaks with her good friend and counselor colleague, Joel Wharton, about his decade-long journey through cancer. Joel expands on how cancer has shaped his perspective, provided wisdom in dark places, and ultimately allows him to live in the tension between God’s faithfulness in the eternal and the here and now. This conversation is a stunning invitation into a deeper walk with the One who loves us most, even if the path weaves through suffering. Join us.