Chris Devlin is the founding partner of Pivotal, a talent partner for creative, marketing, and media agencies. With deep insight across both network and independent agencies, Chris helps businesses build teams that move beyond delivery to genuine partnership.

In this episode of The Space Between, Chris joins Debbie Richardson and Seth Hawthorne to explore how agencies can evolve from suppliers to strategic collaborators. With deep insights into why every point of contact must be shaped like a consultation, how AI is reshaping entry-level work and freeing space for deeper client conversations, and why “fractional” talent is redefining flexibility. Chris is calling for agencies to stay curious, get closer to their clients’ long-term vision, and embrace change as the only constant in a competitive, opportunity-rich market. Will you?

Produced by Ben Slater (because he likes to do this stuff when not CTO'ing at MSQ).