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What if the biggest barrier to church planting isn’t lack of strategy, funding, or even people—but a too-safe vision of Jesus?

Pastor Matt Chesnes, Director of Multiplication for Evangelical Friends Church – Eastern Region, has spent decades pastoring established churches and walking cross-culturally from Japan to India to the UAE. In this conversation he challenges the idea that multiplication starts with better programs. It starts with a bigger Christology.

From multi-ethnic worship gatherings to Business as Mission, from praying Scripture over isolated pastors to training people who will plant disciple-making communities in 120+ nations, Matt paints a picture of a church that seeks first the Kingdom and then simply obeys.

This episode is for anyone who feels the tension between maintenance and multiplication, between safety and the call to go.

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Guest Bio – Pastor Matt Chesnes

Pastor Matt Chesnes has served as Director of Multiplication for Evangelical Friends Church – Eastern Region since August 2024. He brings more than 35 years of pastoral experience, including 16 years at Pelham Friends Church (Ontario) and 20 years at Morning Star Friends Church.

A long-time advocate for missions, Matt has served on EFC-ER’s Mission Board and participated in ministry across Japan, Jamaica, Brazil, India, and the United Arab Emirates. He has a particular passion for multi-ethnic worship and has orchestrated All Nations gatherings that included up to eight different cultural groups.

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Just over a month after finishing the Appalachian Trail, Henry sits down for a raw follow-up. He talks about the gear that failed him, the towns that are overrated, why extreme “purism” is ridiculous, and how the trail is both more boring and harder than most people admit. He also gets honest about where he actually sensed God—usually when he was alone, exhausted, and talking out loud to the sky—and why a simpler mind on the trail made prayer feel easier than everyday life. No polished “life-changing journey” narrative. Just the real thing.

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Jacob Hayward sits down with Kristin, a leader at Pursuit Friends House Church, to explore the joys and realities of house church ministry. After years in traditional church settings, Kristin and her husband joined a plant that began in a home, briefly moved to a building, and returned to a house church model during COVID—rediscovering the deep community they craved.

They discuss the unique intimacy of meeting in homes, where you truly know people (refrigerator contents and all), the challenges and beauty of not being able to “hide” in rows of seats, and how house churches create space for belonging before believing. Kristin shares practical insights on conversational teaching, intergenerational relationships, shared pastoral care, and why this model feels like family reunion rather than Sunday service.

A heartfelt, encouraging conversation for anyone exploring simpler, more relational expressions of church or seeking authentic community.

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Kristin serves as a leader at Pursuit Friends House Church in Green, Ohio. She helped plant the church over seven years ago and is passionate about relational, participatory faith communities that reflect the early church.

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If you're craving deeper relationships, authentic faith discussions, or considering house church, give this episode a listen and visit Pursuit Friends if you're in the area! Share with someone exploring simpler church models. Jacob and Olga’s own house church journey continues—stay tuned for more.

Length: ~54 minutes
Tags: House Church, Organic Church, Christian Community, Missional Living, Intergenerational Church, Simple Church, Authentic Faith, Ohio House Churches

I sit down with Pastor Justin Bryant of a small country church in Mount Vernon, Ohio. Recorded in Justin’s Church's backyard, a transformed wildflower meadow complete with a natural playground, we explore the profound role of beauty in faith, church life, and everyday creation.

Justin shares the story behind developing the church grounds: moving from an empty field to a thriving meadow and children’s play area, inspired by family experiences, church themes of beauty, and his background in design. The discussion flows naturally into deeper themes:

A thoughtful, hope-filled episode for anyone craving more beauty, rest, and authenticity in their faith and community.

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Pastor Justin Bryant serves a small country church near the geographic center of Ohio. A former designer with a heart for creativity, he’s passionate about helping his congregation and community encounter God through beauty in creation and shared spaces.

Catching up with my baby brother who just finished thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail. Listen as he tells stories of his time on trail, his reflections on beauty, on silence, on purpose, and what his next adventure will be!