This week, host Tavi Gevinson talks to author George Saunders about his writing process and latest book “Lincoln in the Bardo.”

Rookie contributor Anne T. Donahue introduces a new Life Skill — how to say no! Plus, Jenna Wortham and Jazmine Hughes of the New York Times answer a question from a listener about confidence.

Each week on the Rookie Podcast, we'll interview people we admire: artists, writers, musicians, filmmakers, activists. We'll also spotlight the work of Rookie readers (now listeners!) and contributors. We'll discuss creativity, pop culture, feminism, activism, self-care, love, friendship, and more.

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