What does it really take to build elite engineering teams in 2025?

In this episode, we break down insights from the newly released State of Software Engineering Excellence 2025 report by Harness. From the evolving role of AI to why DORA metrics alone are no longer enough, we explore the six pillars that define excellence—and how modern teams are shifting from output to outcomes.

Whether you're a CTO, VP, or team lead, this conversation will help you assess your current state, spot gaps, and move up the Engineering Excellence Maturity Model.

🔗 Explore the full report: https://www.harness.io/the-state-of-software-engineering-excellence

🔗 Benchmark your Engineering Excellence maturity: https://engineeringx.org/maturity-assessment