Though he's a comedic actor, Kal has always felt like the label "comedian" was a sort of stolen valor. That is, until this past year, when he started opening for some of his stand-up friends. This week, Kal calls up Patton Oswalt, a legend in stand-up comedy, to get some advice about getting on stage, what's changed in the comedy world, what hasn't, and what's next.

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