Torbjørn aka Thor, a Danish traveler known for the Once Upon A Saga project (http://www.onceuponasaga.dk) has traveled to 194 countries without flying. A global pandemic stopped Thor in his tracks and he's been biding his time ever since, waiting for a window to break free and complete 9 outstanding countries. In this conversation we hear of his adventures around the world and how the Red Cross plays a significant role motivating him.