In this conversation, Michael describes the perfect situation he encountered, where a mama bear and her cubs were feeding on a caribou carcass near Sable Pass. The location provided a safe and accessible spot for wildlife photography. The mama bear created an island of safety by digging gravel in the river, protecting her cubs from potential threats. Michael discusses the equipment he used and the challenges he faced. He also reflects on the permit system and the impact of the experience. In this part of the conversation, Michael shares his recommendation for exploring Denali National Park with a bike. He also discusses the resources he used in the past to find photography inspiration, such as photo clubs and magazines. The conversation then shifts to lessons learned from early photography trips, including the importance of never stopping shooting and the challenges of planning and preparation. The hosts also discuss the idea of creating a merchandise store and upcoming photography trips. In this conversation, Brandon and Michael discuss the process of creating a short film and how to capture the essence of a trip or conservation message. They also explore the idea of collaborative storytelling and the benefits of working with a group of people. They conclude with some housekeeping and future plans for their projects.