After two trips to the NBA Finals, a pair of MVP awards for Malone, and two decades of perspective, the Utah Jazz’s mountain logo now represents some of the most significant moments in franchise history. But it wasn’t always beloved.

Jazz art director Ben Barnes and Jay Francis, the LHM executive who led the Jazz’s marketing department at the time of the logo change in 1996, join The Note podcast this week to discuss the history of the iconic logo, and share their thoughts on bringing back the purple mountains this season.