“You have to challenge yourself to continue thinking differently, especially when people are giving you feedback. It’s not always positive feedback. When you go out to fundraise, you may have to talk to hundreds of people, and 95 of them are going to tell you ‘no,’ 15 are going to tell you ‘it’s a horrible idea.’ But you have to continue to press on and have faith that this is a great idea and I am going to change the world, and I am confident in my vision of what we are building”.

Caleb Avery, CEO of Tilled and founder of a PayFac-as-a-Service approach, is the guest in the latest Product Drama Podcast episode.

Take a listen and enjoy 🎧