No tech or gadget talks this episode as Jason and Umar decided to share about the struggles of being a solo creator. From the creative side to the admin side, what they find difficult to achieve and how they plan to fix things.

They both also nearly bought new watches during the recording. FARER Universal watches are their current obsession.

Smashpop is at https://www.instagram.com/smashpop/

Umar is at https://www.instagram.com/umarnaq

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