“The perfect stillness of the night was thrilled by a more solemn silence. The darkness held a presence that was all the more felt because it was not seen. I could not any more have doubted that He was there than that I was. Indeed, I felt myself to be, if possible, the less real of the two.”

In this episode of Risking Enchantment, we are delighted to welcome back Katie Marquette, host of the podcast Born of Wonder, to talk about the experience of liminal spaces, what it means to encounter the numinous, and how we interpret this in our lives of faith. We discuss the Eucharist as the meeting point between heaven and earth, but also the moments of the 'thinning of the veil' to be found in nature and even our own homes.

Music: Ashton Manor by Kevin MacLeod

Hosts: Rachel Sherlock, Katie Marquette

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Rachel was also previously a guest on the Born of Wonder podcast. To listen to that episode, click here: Falling in Love with Words: Nora Ephron and You’ve Got Mail with Rachel Sherlock

Works Referenced:

Born of Wonder: S4:9 EP51: The Lure of the Edge and Trying to Capture it

Born of Wonder: S4:10 EP52: Thin Places: Lifting the Veil Between Heaven and Earth

A Photographer at the Ends of the Earth

Thomas Joshua Cooper | The World's Edge

Rudolf Otto's 'Mysterium Tremendum et Fascinans' of the Numinous Experience

Otto on the Numinous

November: A Thin Place

The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis

The Weight of Glory by C.S. Lewis

'Effing the Ineffable' by Roger Scruton

Letters to Malcolm by C.S. Lewis

The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Graham

What We're Enjoying At the Moment:

Katie: Three Blind Mice by Agatha Christie

Rachel: House of David by Molly O'Mahony