Today's guest is Mike Waller, the Center's Senior Analyst for Strategy. We Discuss: the idea of subversion, how foreign powers use it, subversion's impact on the 2016 Russian collusion narrative, how to subvert the Iranian regime, and how subversion has a role in many prominent Hollywood productions.

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