In this episode, we flip the script as John Talley III joins us on the other side of the mic to share his story and vision for the Church in our city.

John, a pastor, professor, and self-described “servant trying to tell everybody about somebody who can save anybody,” invites us into the heart behind Neighbor’s Table, an initiative of Surge Network focused on mobilizing believers to love their neighbors in real, tangible ways.

We talk about what it means to move from proclamation to demonstration, not just talking about Jesus, but living it out. From foster care and refugee support to justice, advocacy, and the arts, this episode paints a vision for a unified Church marked by mercy, action, and neighbor love.