This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Chris talking to UWA Senior Lecturer [Dr Sam Han](https://www.uwa.edu.au/profile/sam-han) about the early months of Joe Biden's presidency, as well as the state of the pandemic in the United States.

The two also talk about the pandemic's progress in other areas such as Brazil, as well as some of the fallout from the election results and the curious case of the Daylight Savings party seizing a seat under dubious circumstances.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 6 April 2021.