This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Chris talking to researcher and business ethics lecturer, [Dr Melissa Wheeler](https://www.swinburne.edu.au/research/our-research/access-our-research/find-a-researcher-or-supervisor/researcher-profile/?id=mwheeler) about the [Australian Leadership Index](http://link.mediaoutreach.meltwater.com/ls/click?upn=4Kj4upEWAE1qMOUo-2F7rY3oXY6VN7-2FvuM66-2BQvexxmZHFMdTdQXKHaJyA2r3-2BQERBqGvq4A6vqjbB4vh-2FWLWeRw-3D-3DxJyq_nffYiv-2BxgJz1G2epr3XppO0NaYul3v5IUY7vcYjOaXWgRS2-2FY6kHFEgIVvdymDZQV6W-2Fvwj6tLrkyBMHF-2BMYuCcGZ6eg342taluURs3fmpieKdAQgfQoW9BUqz-2FrMgwEWfRbHwmM-2BRYT-2BuPQmTeuaGFI4hxFpUT9yzRW01CxhRswJnuNLRhH1zgwgJWIg8kdKhFqre6-2BALcNTd7VGzzVoGyAAaL1LZarKaYmYy4chg4epG0EsbryasX-2BgdNe7Yxs-2BMI-2BVxgkR05Qybw-2BX9LGi3z731-2BfvRDUFG6aTLPqBHejug7C4xM6ypTkFt7n1q9ZHzQo-2B7dhDGDiHfTgK0JOj3CBVukGXZKXixz1RuiB9PB0YeFrhq-2FR8dfYnylWiQTpI1iRCYdX6ctVZf0yOZOXyw-3D-3D) and how it reflects a growing distrust of government figures in Australia, especially among women, in light of the allegations of longstanding sexual assault leveled at members of parliament and the Prime Minister's response.

The duo also talk about the death of Prince Philip and the outlook of the UK's political situation, as well as the fluctuating situation regarding local COVID-19 vaccinations.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 20 April 2021.