This week of The Swing is again examining the US' military intervention in the Middle East, its recent coming to an end and its intersection with Australian politics.
Chris and Danae spoke to Curtin University's [Professor Joe Siracusa](https://research.curtin.edu.au/researcher/joe-siracusa-2736cf1e/) about the ramifications of the US pulling out of Afghanistan, and if the criticism of President Biden's decision is warranted.
The show also features an interview with historian Dr Emma Shortis on her new book [Our Exceptional Friend](https://www.hardiegrant.com/au/publishing/bookfinder/book/our-exceptional-friend-by-emma-shortis/9781743797839), about Australia's relationship with the United States and the tempestuous outcomes of such.