In this segment of The Living Conversation, we explore Lao Tzu’s vision of contentment: a village where sharp weapons are never used, where carriages sit still, and where people live fully without needing to go anywhere.

This is not minimalism. It’s a radical teaching about presence, about realizing the Tao is already here, not somewhere else, not after effort.

We also reflect on the tension between logic and experience, the role of critical thinking in spiritual inquiry, and the Eastern philosophical approach to truth that can’t be grasped, only lived.

Featuring a story about teaching students who resist “wordless wisdom,” a passage from Heinrich Zimmer on enlightenment, and a conversation on what happens when we stop trying to chase the sacred and start recognizing it in our ordinary lives.

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