We explore Windows 8, Microsoft’s forthcoming OS upgrade that will combine mobile and desktop systems, which is widely expected to arrive in 2012. Our guests include cutting-edge commentator Daniel Eran Dilger, from Roughly Drafted Magazine and AppleInsider, and Seth Rosenblatt, from CNET, who had a hands-on encounter with an early beta of Windows 8. Macworld writer Lex Friedman talks about the online theft of gift card balances from iTunes.