March 27, 2025

The Ted Turner Saga | Part 2: WTCG—Watch This Channel Grow

1 hour 56 minutes

How Ted Turner turned the worst TV station in Atlanta into the launchpad for his media empire.

In Episode 2 of Media Moguls: The Ted Turner Saga, we dive into the chaotic early days of Ted’s first TV station—his bold move to buy a struggling UHF channel in Atlanta called WJRJ (soon renamed WTCG). It was bleeding cash, had barely any viewers, and wasn’t even available on most TVs. So how did he make sure it didn’t just survive… but thrive?

We’ll also explore how cable TV started from pure necessity—built on giant towers and coaxial cable to serve towns the networks ignored. Plus, the fierce resistance cable faced from Hollywood and the Big Three networks—and how Ted zagged while everyone else zigged. With reruns, wrestling, and relentless hustle, he built a scrappy, low-budget station that put viewers first.

This is the story of tenacity, vision, and entrepreneurial insanity that changed television forever.

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Credits

Writing, research, and production by Web Barr.

Artwork by Dylan Lathrop.

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com).

Chapters

(00:00): Opening Monologue

(06:31): The Origin Story of Cable

(09:50): Is Cable Disruptive?

(14:40): Pay TV Visions or Hallucinations?

(17:25): Cable Growth Stops

(21:45): Ted's TV Opportunity

(25:20): Local Television Dreams

(27:31): Against All Advice

(29:30): UHF Nightmares

(37:41): Burning Cash

(44:20): Stretching Every Dollar

(50:41): Counter-programming

(57:00): Ted Visits Hollywood

(1:00:00): No Committees

(1:03:00): Programming Strategy

(1:06:49): Georgia Championship Wrestling

(1:09:47): NBC on WTCG

(1:12:00): Netflix Before Netflix

(1:14:26): TV Programming Innovations

(1:17:30): News at 3AM

(1:22:30): Sales

(1:29:00): Working with Ted

(1:33:30): Cable Dreams

(1:40:00): Grand Slam Vision

(1:47:30): On the Next Episode

Sources

Books used in Episode 2. Get em here!

It Ain't As Easy As It Looks: Ted Turner's Amazing Story

Up All Night: Ted Turner, CNN, and the Birth of 24-Hour News

Ted Turner Speaks: Insights From the World's Greatest Maverick

Confessions of an Advertising Man

Lead Follow or Get Out of the Way: The Story of Ted Turner

Tinderbox: HBO's Ruthless Pursuit of New Frontiers

Media Man: Ted Turner's Improbable Empire

Clash of the Titans: How the Unbridled Ambition of Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch Has Created Global Empires that Control What We Read & Watch Each Day

Call Me Ted

Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the rise of the modern cable-TV business

Me and Ted Against the World: The Unauthorized Story of the Founding of CNN

Tube of Plenty: The Evolution of American Television

Founder Mode (Essay)

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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By Hi Barr

March 27, 2025

The Ted Turner Saga | Part 2: WTCG—Watch This Channel Grow

1 hour 56 minutes

How Ted Turner turned the worst TV station in Atlanta into the launchpad for his media empire.

This is the story of tenacity, vision, and entrepreneurial insanity that changed television forever.

For More From Hi Barr

Email us: [email protected]

Listen to Hi Barr’s You Had To Be There

For business inquiries, please email: [email protected]

Credits

Writing, research, and production by Web Barr.

Artwork by Dylan Lathrop.

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com).

Chapters

(00:00): Opening Monologue

(06:31): The Origin Story of Cable

(09:50): Is Cable Disruptive?

(14:40): Pay TV Visions or Hallucinations?

(17:25): Cable Growth Stops

(21:45): Ted's TV Opportunity

(25:20): Local Television Dreams

(27:31): Against All Advice

(29:30): UHF Nightmares

(37:41): Burning Cash

(44:20): Stretching Every Dollar

(50:41): Counter-programming

(57:00): Ted Visits Hollywood

(1:00:00): No Committees

(1:03:00): Programming Strategy

(1:06:49): Georgia Championship Wrestling

(1:09:47): NBC on WTCG

(1:12:00): Netflix Before Netflix

(1:14:26): TV Programming Innovations

(1:17:30): News at 3AM

(1:22:30): Sales

(1:29:00): Working with Ted

(1:33:30): Cable Dreams

(1:40:00): Grand Slam Vision

(1:47:30): On the Next Episode

Sources

Books used in Episode 2. Get em here!

It Ain't As Easy As It Looks: Ted Turner's Amazing Story

Up All Night: Ted Turner, CNN, and the Birth of 24-Hour News

Ted Turner Speaks: Insights From the World's Greatest Maverick

Confessions of an Advertising Man

Lead Follow or Get Out of the Way: The Story of Ted Turner

Tinderbox: HBO's Ruthless Pursuit of New Frontiers

Media Man: Ted Turner's Improbable Empire

Clash of the Titans: How the Unbridled Ambition of Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch Has Created Global Empires that Control What We Read & Watch Each Day

Call Me Ted

Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the rise of the modern cable-TV business

Me and Ted Against the World: The Unauthorized Story of the Founding of CNN

Tube of Plenty: The Evolution of American Television

Founder Mode (Essay)

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

...more

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