In Episode 22 of Changing the Narrative, Murray Elbourne and Elizabeth Rouse count down the top 10 accessible apps in the world, the tools that quietly run daily life for the blind and low vision community. It opens, naturally, with a cricket commentator, a number that refuses to leave Murray's head, and a Messi jersey that has no business being on a podcast about apps. From there the two work their way up a list that sparks strong opinions, a few friendly bets, and one stubborn argument about whether a screen reader even counts as an app in the first place.

Along the way they swap stories about reading marathons, narration requests that have gotten faintly out of hand, and the quiet confidence that comes from pulling out a phone and simply knowing. There's talk of airport navigation, grocery aisles, post office mysteries solved in seconds, and why the best of these tools are built with blind voices in the room instead of as an afterthought. Murray and Lizzie don't quite agree on which app deserves the crown, and they're not about to spoil where everything lands. Press play, place your bets, and find out which one comes out on top.