Joe Holt and Hillary Norton join Paul Amadeus Lane and Eddie Arias on Episode 4 of Beyond the Curb to unpack one of the biggest day-to-day barriers for wheelchair users: accessible, reliable wheelchair-accessible transportation. In this episode, we break down what happens when rides are inconsistent, vehicles aren’t truly accessible, or service coverage is limited—and why reliability matters just as much as access. We also spotlight how Butterfli “Access for All” is helping meet these challenges by working toward transportation that is more dependable, inclusive, and practical for real life.