Catherine Cleary spoke to farmer Davi Leon who (with his wife Hazel) runs a CSA in Wicklow (https://wicklow.farm) and to scientist Jim McAdam of Queen's University Belfast who has been studying agroforestry for decades. Find a tree to hug (or just one to lean against) and have a listen.

Photo of cows by Jane Shackleton.

Music:

'Pork chops and gravy' performed and recorded by Ross Hannon

'Forest Music', The American Singer; Singing in Three Parts, Book VI, archive.org