Dr. J chats with Dr. Andrew Root for a searching conversation about secularism, belief, and what it means to live faithfully in what we often (too imprecisely) call a “secular age.” Rather than treating secularism as a settled idea or a simple threat to faith, the conversation probes its complexity—how it emerged, how it affects us, and how it quietly reshapes our understanding of meaning, identity, and hope.

Together, they explore how belief is not optional but unavoidable, even in a world that imagines it has moved past faith. Root introduces the idea of navigating belief through competing frameworks—what he describes as a triangle of belief systems—and introduces the “Beyonder,” someone who transcends reductive options, refusing nihilism, escapism, or thin optimism. Along the way, they examine how cultural narratives—especially those embedded in media, comedy, memoirs, and political discourse—form us long before we realize it.

The conversation reflects on transformation stories, funerals, and the ways community and tradition hold us inside a larger story when individualism runs out of gas. Against the modern temptation to reduce faith to self-expression, therapy, or fodder for conquest, this episode insists that Christianity offers something sturdy enough to carry grief, sin, and hope.

Rather than offering quick fixes or easy slogans, this conversation invites us to ‘learn our shapes’ by recognizing the forces that shape our beliefs, and to recover a vision of reality that transcends isolated selves and reconnects us to God, our neighbor, and a story worth living in. If you sense that modern life promises freedom but delivers fragmentation, this episode offers a deeper way of naming what’s going on—and where hope still breaks in.

Website: AndrewRoot.org (books, podcast, etc.)