In this conversation, Ben and Spencer discuss the significance of Jesus' Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem, contrasting it with the procession of Pontius Pilate.

The discussion explores the expectations of the Messiah, the symbolism of the palm branches and cloaks, and the misunderstanding of Jesus' mission.

The conversation emphasizes the upside-down nature of God's kingdom and concludes with Jesus weeping over Jerusalem, highlighting the tension between divine purpose and human expectation.